/**
* vBulletin 3.8.7 CSS
* Style: 'Guild Wars Guru V3B'; Style ID: 13
*/
body
{
background: #AB9C7F;
color: #000000;
font: 10pt verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
margin: 0px;
padding: 0px;
}
a:link, body_alink
{
color: #750000;
}
a:visited, body_avisited
{
color: #750000;
}
a:hover, a:active, body_ahover
{
color: #BD6F01;
}
.page
{
color: #000000;
}
td, th, p, li
{
font: 10pt verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}
.tborder
{
background: #9E8C70;
color: #000000;
border: 1px solid #000000;
}
.tcat
{
background: #AC9D86 url(../Img/forumT2_catbg.gif) repeat-x top left;
color: #3C3326;
font: bold 10pt verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}
.tcat a:link, .tcat_alink
{
color: #3C3326;
text-decoration: none;
}
.tcat a:visited, .tcat_avisited
{
color: #3C3326;
text-decoration: none;
}
.tcat a:hover, .tcat a:active, .tcat_ahover
{
color: #000000;
text-decoration: underline;
}
.thead
{
background: #423A2F url(../Img/forumT2_headbg.gif) repeat-x top left;
color: #D8B98D;
font: bold 11px tahoma, verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}
.thead a:link, .thead_alink
{
color: #D8B98D;
}
.thead a:visited, .thead_avisited
{
color: #D8B98D;
}
.thead a:hover, .thead a:active, .thead_ahover
{
color: #BD6F01;
}
.tfoot
{
background: #AC9D86 url(../Img/forumT2_catbg.gif) repeat-x top left;
color: #400F0B;
}
.tfoot a:link, .tfoot_alink
{
color: #400F0B;
}
.tfoot a:visited, .tfoot_avisited
{
color: #400F0B;
}
.tfoot a:hover, .tfoot a:active, .tfoot_ahover
{
color: #000000;
}
.alt1, .alt1Active
{
background: #DFD5BF;
color: #750000;
color: #000;
}
.alt2, .alt2Active
{
background: #FBF8ED;
color: #000000;
background: #cbc1ab;
}
.inlinemod
{
background: #FFFFCC;
color: #000000;
}
.wysiwyg
{
background: #F5F5FF;
color: #000000;
font: 10pt verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
margin: 5px 10px 10px 10px;
padding: 0px;
}
.wysiwyg a:link, .wysiwyg_alink
{
color: #22229C;
}
.wysiwyg a:visited, .wysiwyg_avisited
{
color: #22229C;
}
.wysiwyg a:hover, .wysiwyg a:active, .wysiwyg_ahover
{
color: #FF4400;
}
textarea, .bginput
{
font: 10pt verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}
.bginput option, .bginput optgroup
{
font-size: 10pt;
font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}
.button
{
font: 11px verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}
select
{
font: 11px verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}
option, optgroup
{
font-size: 11px;
font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}
.smallfont
{
font: 11px verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}
.time
{
color: #6E480D;
}
.navbar
{
font: 11px verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}
.highlight
{
color: #FF0000;
font-weight: bold;
}
.fjsel
{
background: #A79983;
color: #000000;
}
.fjdpth0
{
background: #A79983;
color: #000000;
}
.panel
{
background: #DFD5BF;
color: #000000;
padding: 10px;
border: 2px outset;
}
.panelsurround
{
background: #888272;
color: #000000;
}
legend
{
color: #000000;
font: 11px tahoma, verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}
.vbmenu_control
{
background: #591E1E url(../Img/forumT2_menubg.gif) repeat-x bottom left;
color: #DFBF82;
font: bold 11px tahoma, verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
padding: 3px 6px 3px 6px;
white-space: nowrap;
}
.vbmenu_control a:link, .vbmenu_control_alink
{
color: #DFBF82;
text-decoration: none;
}
.vbmenu_control a:visited, .vbmenu_control_avisited
{
color: #DFBF82;
text-decoration: none;
}
.vbmenu_control a:hover, .vbmenu_control a:active, .vbmenu_control_ahover
{
color: #DFBF82;
text-decoration: underline;
}
.vbmenu_popup
{
background: #FFFFFF;
color: #000000;
border: 1px solid #000000;
}
.vbmenu_option
{
background: #CFBA99;
color: 3B3323;
font: 11px verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
white-space: nowrap;
cursor: pointer;
}
.vbmenu_option a:link, .vbmenu_option_alink
{
color: 3B3323;
text-decoration: none;
}
.vbmenu_option a:visited, .vbmenu_option_avisited
{
color: 3B3323;
text-decoration: none;
}
.vbmenu_option a:hover, .vbmenu_option a:active, .vbmenu_option_ahover
{
color: #000000;
text-decoration: none;
}
.vbmenu_hilite
{
background: #BCA786;
color: #3B3323;
font: 11px verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
white-space: nowrap;
cursor: pointer;
}
.vbmenu_hilite a:link, .vbmenu_hilite_alink
{
color: #3B3323;
text-decoration: none;
}
.vbmenu_hilite a:visited, .vbmenu_hilite_avisited
{
color: #3B3323;
text-decoration: none;
}
.vbmenu_hilite a:hover, .vbmenu_hilite a:active, .vbmenu_hilite_ahover
{
color: #3B3323;
text-decoration: none;
}
/* ***** styling for 'big' usernames on postbit etc. ***** */
.bigusername { font-size: 14pt; }
/* ***** small padding on 'thead' elements ***** */
td.thead, th.thead, div.thead { padding: 4px; }
/* ***** basic styles for multi-page nav elements */
.pagenav a { text-decoration: none; }
.pagenav td { padding: 2px 4px 2px 4px; }
/* ***** de-emphasized text */
.shade, a.shade:link, a.shade:visited { color: #777777; text-decoration: none; }
a.shade:active, a.shade:hover { color: #FF4400; text-decoration: underline; }
.tcat .shade, .thead .shade, .tfoot .shade { color: #DDDDDD; }
/* ***** define margin and font-size for elements inside panels ***** */
.fieldset { margin-bottom: 6px; }
.fieldset, .fieldset td, .fieldset p, .fieldset li { font-size: 11px; }
#toplinks{
font-family:Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 11px;
color: #C1AE8B;
margin-top:0px;
font-weight: bold;
}
#toplinks a{font-family:Tahoma,Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 11px;color: #8C7554;text-decoration: none;font-weight: bold;}
#toplinks a:hover{font-family:Tahoma,Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 11px;color:#BD6F01;text-decoration: underline;font-weight: bold;}
.topwrap {
background-image: url(../Img/forumT2_topbg.gif);
background-repeat: repeat-x;
height: 27px;
}
.headerwrap {
background-image: url(../Img/forumT2_headerbg.gif);
background-repeat: repeat-x;
height: 183px;
}
.mmoguru {
background-image: url(../Img/forumT2_mmoguru.gif);
background-repeat: no-repeat;
height: 27px;
width: 112px;
}
.logowrap {
background-image: url(../Img/GuildWarsGuru_logo.jpg);
background-repeat: no-repeat;
height: 183px;
width: 233px;
}
.headerR {
background-image: url(../Img/forumT2_headerR.gif);
background-repeat: no-repeat;
height: 183px;
width: 14px;
}
.topFORMarea {
width: 219px;
margin: 0px;
padding: 0px;
}
.topwrap .topFORMarea form {
padding: 0px;
margin-top: 0px;
margin-right: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px;
margin-left: 7px;
}
.topwrap .topFORMarea select {
background-color: #CCCCCC;
width: 200px;
}
.topdivider {
background-image: url(../Img/forumT2_topdivider.gif);
background-repeat: no-repeat;
height: 27px;
width: 2px;
}
.footerwrap {
background-image: url(../Img/forumT2_footerbg.gif);
background-repeat: repeat-x;
height: 100px;
}
.footerL {
background-image: url(../Img/forumT2_footerL.gif);
background-repeat: no-repeat;
height: 100px;
width: 14px;
}
.footerR {
background-image: url(../Img/forumT2_footerR.gif);
background-repeat: no-repeat;
height: 100px;
width: 14px;
}
.headerADSarea {
height: 139px;
}
.tabArea {
height: 44px;
}
.navHome {
height: 44px;
width: 62px;
}
.navForums {
height: 44px;
width: 73px;
}
.navSkills {
height: 44px;
width: 61px;
}
.navCreatures {
height: 44px;
width: 87px;
}
.navAreas {
height: 44px;
width: 64px;
}
.navAuctions {
height: 44px;
width: 80px;
}
.footertext {
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 11px;
color: #FFF;
padding:5px;
}
#guru_list{position:absolute;top:2px;right:105px;margin-right:100px;z-index:100000}
#mmodb_list{position:absolute;top:2px;right:15px;margin-right:10px;z-index:100000}
#guru_list_a, #mmodb_list_a {color:#000000;font-weight:bold;background:transparent url(../Img/forum-) no-repeat;
width:153px;height:19px;line-height:19px;font-size:11px;font-weight:bold;display:block;text-align:center;
text-decoration:none;}
#guru_navitems, #mmodb_navitems {
background:#ab9c7f;
border:1px solid #353841;
position: absolute;
padding-top:20px;
width: 147px;
padding:0 2px;margin:0;
display:none;
left:0;
list-style:none;
z-index:100000;
}
#guru_navitems li, #mmodb_navitems li {margin-bottom:2px;}
#guru_navitems li a, #mmodb_navitems li a {color:#000000;margin-bottom:2px;}
/************************************************************************/
.t-footer {
clear:both;
position:relative;
height:635px;
}
.t-footer {
font:12px/1.5 Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
background-color:#151515;
height:635px;
text-shadow:0 -1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.6);
position:relative;
border-top:30px solid #262626;
}
.t-footer ul, .t-footer li, .t-footer h4 {
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
list-style: none inside none;
}
.t-footer a {
text-decoration: none;
}
.t-footer:before,.t-footer:after {
content:"";
display:table;
}
.t-footer:after {
clear:both;
}
.ie8 .t-footer {
zoom:1;
}
.t-footer a {
color:white;
font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
white-space:nowrap;
}
.t-footer a:visited {
color:white;
}
.t-footer a:hover {
color:white;
text-decoration:none;
}
.t-footer a>strong {
color:#ff5f14;
}
.t-footer a>strong:hover {
color:white;
}
.t-footer h1,.t-footer h2,.t-footer h3,.t-footer h4,.t-footer h5,.t-footer h6 {
color:white;
font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
letter-spacing:0;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-wrapper {
width:1000px;
margin:0 auto;
padding:40px 0;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-wrapper:before,.t-footer .t-footer-wrapper:after {
content:"";
display:table;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-wrapper:after {
clear:both;
}
.ie8 .t-footer .t-footer-wrapper {
zoom:1;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseInfo {
float:left;
width:31.96667%;
margin-left:2.05%;
margin-left:0;
position:relative;
z-index:2;
border-right:1px solid #333;
}
.ie7 .t-footer .t-footer-curseInfo {
width:30.96667%;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseInfo hgroup {
margin-bottom:15px;
margin-right:15px;
margin-top:-40px;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseInfo hgroup h1 {
background-image:url(../Img/curse-logo.png);
margin-bottom:15px;
width:225px;
height:93px;
text-indent:-99999px;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseInfo hgroup h2 {
font-size:12px;
font-weight:normal;
color:white;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseInfo hgroup>strong {
font-weight:bold;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseInfo .t-footer-signUp {
background:#262626;
-webkit-border-radius:8px;
-moz-border-radius:8px;
-ms-border-radius:8px;
-o-border-radius:8px;
border-radius:8px;
padding:15px;
margin:0 15px 30px 0;
text-align:center;
}
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font-size:20px;
font-weight:bold;
color:white;
line-height:1.2em;
text-shadow:0 1px 1px #000;
}
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margin-bottom:10px;
font-weight:normal;
color:#e6e6e6;
}
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background-color:#EA8F20;
background-image:0;
background-image:0;
background-image:0;
background-image:0;
background-image:linear-gradient(top,#ea8f20,#c56711);
-webkit-border-radius:4px;
-moz-border-radius:4px;
-ms-border-radius:4px;
-o-border-radius:4px;
border-radius:4px;
-webkit-box-shadow:inset 0 1px 0 rgba(255,255,255,0.2),0 1px 2px rgba(0,0,0,0.05);
-moz-box-shadow:inset 0 1px 0 rgba(255,255,255,0.2),0 1px 2px rgba(0,0,0,0.05);
-ms-box-shadow:inset 0 1px 0 rgba(255,255,255,0.2),0 1px 2px rgba(0,0,0,0.05);
-o-box-shadow:inset 0 1px 0 rgba(255,255,255,0.2),0 1px 2px rgba(0,0,0,0.05);
box-shadow:inset 0 1px 0 rgba(255,255,255,0.2),0 1px 2px rgba(0,0,0,0.05);
text-shadow:0 -1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.25);
border-color:#C56711 #C56711 #EA8F20;
border-color:rgba(0,0,0,0.1) rgba(0,0,0,0.1) rgba(0,0,0,0.25);
overflow:hidden;
color:#fff;
padding:10px 30px;
font-weight:bold;
font-size:16px;
display:block;
text-align:center;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseInfo .t-footer-socialLinks:before,.t-footer .t-footer-curseInfo .t-footer-socialLinks:after {
content:"";
display:table;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseInfo .t-footer-socialLinks:after {
clear:both;
}
.ie8 .t-footer .t-footer-curseInfo .t-footer-socialLinks {
zoom:1;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseInfo .t-footer-socialLinks li {
float:left;
width:23.4625%;
margin-left:2.05%;
}
.ie7 .t-footer .t-footer-curseInfo .t-footer-socialLinks li {
width:22.4625%;
}
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display:block;
}
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display:block;
margin:0 auto;
background:url(../Img/icon-social-links.png) no-repeat 0 0;
}
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width:64px;
height:26px;
background-position:0 0;
}
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background-position:0 -28px;
}
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width:37px;
height:27px;
background-position:-66px 0;
}
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background-position:0 -56px;
}
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width:16px;
height:32px;
background-position:-105px 0;
}
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background-position:-105px -34px;
}
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width:27px;
height:27px;
background-position:-39px -56px;
}
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background-position:-68px -56px;
}
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margin-left:0;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork {
float:left;
width:65%;
margin-left:2.05%;
border-top:1px solid #333;
}
.ie7 .t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork {
width:64.98333%;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork header>h4 {
position:relative;
top:-9px;
background:#151515;
padding:0 10px 0 0;
display:inline-block;
font-size:14px;
font-weight:bold;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-jumpLink {
float:right;
position:relative;
top:-9px;
padding:0 10px;
font-size:10px;
height:16px;
line-height:16px;
text-transform:uppercase;
font-weight:bold;
background:#383838;
-webkit-border-radius:6px;
-moz-border-radius:6px;
-ms-border-radius:6px;
-o-border-radius:6px;
border-radius:6px;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-jumpLink:hover {
background:#ff5f14;
color:#fff;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-featured {
border-bottom:1px solid #333;
overflow:hidden;
padding-bottom:1.5em;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-featured .t-footer-featureItem {
float:left;
width:23.4625%;
margin-left:2.05%;
}
.ie7 .t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-featured .t-footer-featureItem {
width:22.4625%;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-featured .t-footer-featureItem:first-child {
margin-left:0;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-featured .t-footer-featureItem h4 {
text-indent:-9999px;
display:block;
width:146px;
height:102px;
background-repeat:no-repeat;
background-position:0 0;
margin:0;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-featured .t-footer-featureItem.site-gw2g h4 {
background-image:url(../Img/featured-gw2g.png);
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-featured .t-footer-featureItem.site-lolpro h4 {
background-image:url(../Img/featured-lolpro.png);
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-featured .t-footer-featureItem.site-mmoc h4 {
background-image:url(../Img/featured-mmoc.png);
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-featured .t-footer-featureItem.site-gw2db h4 {
background-image:url(../Img/featured-gw2db.png);
}
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display:block;
cursor:pointer;
}
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background-position:0 -102px;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-featured .t-footer-featureItem dl {
margin:0;
background:#262626;
-webkit-border-bottom-right-radius:8px;
-moz-border-bottom-right-radius:8px;
-ms-border-bottom-right-radius:8px;
-o-border-bottom-right-radius:8px;
border-bottom-right-radius:8px;
-webkit-border-bottom-left-radius:8px;
-moz-border-bottom-left-radius:8px;
-ms-border-bottom-left-radius:8px;
-o-border-bottom-left-radius:8px;
border-bottom-left-radius:8px;
width:126px;
padding:5px 10px;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-featured .t-footer-featureItem dl dt {
font-weight:bold;
color:#fff;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-featured .t-footer-featureItem dl dd {
margin:0;
font-size:11px;
white-space:normal;
line-height:13px;
color:#ddd;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-browse {
position:relative;
padding-left:170px;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-browse:before,.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-browse:after {
content:"";
display:table;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-browse:after {
clear:both;
}
.ie8 .t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-browse {
zoom:1;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-browse>li>a {
position:absolute;
left:0;
width:150px;
font-weight:bold;
color:#4b4b4b;
text-shadow:0 1px 0 #000;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-browse>li>a.j-selected,.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-browse>li>a:hover {
background:#2c2c2c;
color:#ff5f14;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-browse>li.t-footer-coreLinks>a {
top:0;
}
.t-footer .t-footer-curseNetwork .t-footer-browse>li.t-footer-communityLinks>a {
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Are you going to move on to GW2? - Page 12 - Guild Wars Forums - GW Guru
Sep 02, 2008, 01:22 PM // 13:22
#221
Desert Nomad
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: in a house
Guild: The Knitters Guild
Profession: W/R
We all know that people are going to move to Guild Wars 2. The only incentive that there is to buy GW1 any chapter + GW:EN is that of a "Transference" of "Something" "Maybe Good" to the GW2.
It will be interesting to be a Charr toon so as you can guess. BRING IT ON gw2 that is...
nuf said
Sep 02, 2008, 01:59 PM // 13:59
#222
Jungle Guide
Join Date: Mar 2007
Guild: Mature Gaming Association
Profession: Me/E
No. Anet lost me as a customer by halfway abandoning GW1. I've been bored to tears for some time, so I moved on to less boring games.
Sep 02, 2008, 02:30 PM // 14:30
#223
Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Guild: [PIG]
ill probably play GW2, put im gonna look at it like any other game. Do i like it? if so ill continue to play.
Sep 02, 2008, 03:24 PM // 15:24
#224
Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jun 2006
Profession: Mo/
The fundamental problem with Guild Wars is that they no longer have a coherent vision of what the game should be, at least it seems that way. This happened gradually with the PvP -> PvE focus, and now the higher end gvg has stagnated because there is no direction for the game. This is why I want to give Guild Wars 2 a try before I buy it.
Sep 02, 2008, 04:55 PM // 16:55
#225
Desert Nomad
Join Date: Apr 2006
Profession: W/
No.
Also, I won't be purchasing any cars made in 2021, and I've already decided that everything on the fall TV schedule for 2014 is going to suck.
My life has gotten much easier since I started making all my buying decisions based on unjustifiable judgment calls regarding products that won't exist for some time.
I have a better topic: will you be posting in the next unrelentingly pointless thread about Guild Wars 2 buying habits that is created, potentially, years before the product's release? Please, c'mon. Somebody post this thread again . We didn't get enough irrational feedback in the last two dozen threads about this exact same topic.
Sep 02, 2008, 04:57 PM // 16:57
#226
Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Aug 2007
Guild: None
Profession: N/
they are making gw2???
Sep 02, 2008, 04:59 PM // 16:59
#227
Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: [DVDF]
I think anet should've focused on more campaigns for GW1. It's quite a risk they're taking.
And like most answers here, I'll be trying the beta and deciding then...
Sep 03, 2008, 01:49 AM // 01:49
#228
Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Guild: none
Profession: E/Mo
Well, yes. Would you all like a little cheese with that wine? I'v enjoyed playing for 3 years. I think there are a lot of things that would make my time more enjoyable but by far I'm happy.
Sep 03, 2008, 08:14 AM // 08:14
#229
Grotto Attendant
Join Date: May 2005
Location: At an Insit.. Intis... a house.
Guild: Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]
Profession: W/Me
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Imperial
I think anet should've focused on more campaigns for GW1. It's quite a risk they're taking.
Yeah, but they had no choice. Unlike The Other Big MMORPG Company(tm) ArenaNet and NCSoft are not bathing in more money than they know what to do with, and had to concentrate all their resources on their next project. GW2 may cost as much as $100M to develop - that may be just 20 days subscription fees for Blizzard, but it's 2 years of revenue for NCSoft and ANet.
I also suspect the longevity of Guildwars surprised ANet and NCSoft, they probably didn't expect it to still be going as strong as it is; at least that's my take on why they're now moving a designer and a programmer back to working full time with GW1.
Sep 03, 2008, 10:10 AM // 10:10
#230
Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: the Netherlands
Profession: W/Mo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparks Dawnbringer
Well, yes. Would you all like a little cheese with that wine? I'v enjoyed playing for 3 years. I think there are a lot of things that would make my time more enjoyable but by far I'm happy.
Yes, I want some cheese with it and I'll pay for it too, but there's nothing left on the menu. It has been a good game for me too but it's been a year since the last expansion, which wasn't as big as previous campaigns and after this year there is nothing yet that we can look forward to.
Yes they are supposedly working on GW2 but there is no indication whatsoever about when we can expect this except this: 2009/2010
It seems to me that Anet simply doesn't have the manpower to deliver what they need to to maintain their fan base properly and they are leaving an enormous amount depend on luck and goodwill for GW2.
Funny thing is, when I will start playing a game like say Aion and I end up loving it, I won't be able to care less anymore about what I put together in my HoM. It was a great idea at the time but it's all taking too long for the next step. The funny thing about getting bored is that it also brings apathy.
People who are upset about this all are basically struggling with their last strands of care about this game before they completely give up on it and simply no longer care. I recognise myself in this completely. I am only playing at the moment to fill the gap till a few other games come out and then I'm gone. So come November, that's it basically.
And really, any business has to deal with continuity. From where I'm sitting Anet's got some problems there.
Sep 03, 2008, 10:14 AM // 10:14
#231
Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: the Netherlands
Profession: W/Mo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
Yeah, but they had no choice. Unlike The Other Big MMORPG Company(tm) ArenaNet and NCSoft are not bathing in more money than they know what to do with, and had to concentrate all their resources on their next project. GW2 may cost as much as $100M to develop - that may be just 20 days subscription fees for Blizzard, but it's 2 years of revenue for NCSoft and ANet.
I also suspect the longevity of Guildwars surprised ANet and NCSoft, they probably didn't expect it to still be going as strong as it is; at least that's my take on why they're now moving a designer and a programmer back to working full time with GW1.
Uhmm just to clarify, even though Anet falls under NcSoft they are not as such one and the same. NcSoft is behind Lineage and also behind the upcoming Aion Online game, in which they were able to invest quite a lot. If anything Aion may be one of the biggest competitors for GW and thus for Anet. I'm sure that if for example GW2 doesn't do well because everybody is playing Aion, NcSoft won't lose any sleep over it...Anet however probably will...
Sep 03, 2008, 11:03 AM // 11:03
#232
Jungle Guide
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: 55° 57' 0" N / 3° 12' 0" W
Profession: N/Me
If it has titles, I might look elsewhere, don't get me wrong, I do grind for titles atm, but I'll be honest, theres nothing fun about it, it's all just for show
So if GW2 is the same as that, then I'll be looking for a new game of that year
Sep 03, 2008, 12:54 PM // 12:54
#233
Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: To the lee of the stone
Guild: Currently guildless
Profession: N/Me
Not everyone has played the game ad nauseum. I am rather new, and have only recently attained 20th level. There's still much for me to do and I'm sure there are many others like me out there.
After being a part of the Age of Conan launch, I would like to say that
I will not play an MMO at startup again, although I know that Champions Online will be a mighty temptation.
Sep 03, 2008, 02:27 PM // 14:27
#234
Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Cheltenham, Glos, UK
Guild: Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]
Profession: R/A
Quote:
Originally Posted by cthulhu reborn
Uhmm just to clarify, even though Anet falls under NcSoft they are not as such one and the same. NcSoft is behind Lineage and also behind the upcoming Aion Online game, in which they were able to invest quite a lot. If anything Aion may be one of the biggest competitors for GW and thus for Anet. I'm sure that if for example GW2 doesn't do well because everybody is playing Aion, NcSoft won't lose any sleep over it...Anet however probably will...
Nah, cos all of the ANet employees pay slips have the NC Soft logo on them
Sep 03, 2008, 06:33 PM // 18:33
#235
Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Mar 2006
Guild: Us Are Not [leet]
Profession: W/
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ctb
No.
Also, I won't be purchasing any cars made in 2021, and I've already decided that everything on the fall TV schedule for 2014 is going to suck.
My life has gotten much easier since I started making all my buying decisions based on unjustifiable judgment calls regarding products that won't exist for some time.
I have a better topic: will you be posting in the next unrelentingly pointless thread about Guild Wars 2 buying habits that is created, potentially, years before the product's release? Please, c'mon. Somebody post this thread again . We didn't get enough irrational feedback in the last two dozen threads about this exact same topic.
well played
12chars
Sep 04, 2008, 06:22 AM // 06:22
#236
Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: Girl Power [GP]
Profession: Mo/Me
I honestly don't know... the longer I wait the less interested I get. Plus with all the new games coming down the pipe, why should I care about GW2 until the beta?
Sep 04, 2008, 06:28 AM // 06:28
#237
Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Denmark, Karup.
Guild: [PuG]
Profession: W/E
Quote:
Originally Posted by I MP I
Depends on how the GW2 beta goes.
Yea, and the beta has to be really bad for me not to move over to GW2.
Sep 04, 2008, 03:44 PM // 15:44
#238
Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: the Netherlands
Profession: W/Mo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonesamurai
Nah, cos all of the ANet employees pay slips have the NC Soft logo on them
Well, I have never seen their pay slips so I can't comment on that. But game companies cut of smaller studios under them constantly. I am pretty sure that if Anet proves their worth they will be kept, and if GW2 fails they will be cut out from NcSoft. I am sure NcSoft will want Anet to succeed but then if they can make Aion the next biggest thing after WoW at the cost of GW2 (not saying it will but for argument's sake) then I am sure business will be business and they won't think twice about it.
Sep 04, 2008, 04:27 PM // 16:27
#239
Doctor of Philosophy
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Pacific Northwest
Guild: Team Love [kiSu] www.teamlove.us
At a panel meeting at PAX on Business Models the NCSoft rep was pretty high on Guild Wars (and even casually referred to GW6 while making a point). Aion is a different business model more similar to what is seen in Asian, now, which is why I think it has a similar look to the MMOs that you see there. I'll talk more about NCSoft and ArenaNet in my next piece on Chris Lye, their Marketing Director.
Sep 04, 2008, 05:04 PM // 17:04
#240
Wilds Pathfinder
Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
I also suspect the longevity of Guildwars surprised ANet and NCSoft, they probably didn't expect it to still be going as strong as it is; at least that's my take on why they're now moving a designer and a programmer back to working full time with GW1.
Or they didn't expect GW2 to be in development so long.
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